a chat with raf / uly

Back in December, I had a long catch up with one of my closest friends, Raf (or as some of you might know him, Uly). Just a casual two hour phone call about life and how our creative practices have been changing and shifting lately. Afterward, I kept thinking about how nice the conversation was, and how much I’ve been enjoying sharing stuff here. So I suppose I just thought... maybe that’s something worth putting out there.

Originally, I thought I’d just email Raf a few questions and post his responses, keepin' it simple. But then we were like, why not just record the conversation? Which turned into, what if we added a visual element? So we did, and here it is.

This isn’t polished, it’s not a podcast launch, and I definitely don’t have a proper setup, (you should have seen me try to get the audio file to sync up with the video) (and I'm sure you'll notice the points at which I failed at that too) just two friends chatting. But it was fun, and I thought some of you might enjoy listening in!

PS massive thank you to Ellie Berry for helping me mid-meltdown when trying to make this video simply exist.